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So here's me, actually watching a Doctor Who episode on the day of its premiere. A mixed bag episode for me--I like the flippant use of Adolf Hitler, the tangled character arc of River Song, and the tiny tyrannical corps of time travellers taking it upon themselves to send history's evil doers to Hell. With the business in the previous episode about the Doctor losing himself and being corrupted by his power into a force for evil, it seems the show is heading into exploring ideas of people going into a totalitarian state. Maybe the every-gunfighter-for-themselves character of River is meant to be a counterbalance to the lefty Doctor, perhaps reflecting the idea that we need a government composed of the opposing forces to avoid society going off the rails. One might see this in the use of Richard Nixon in the season premiere, the abuse of sentient beings in "The Rebel Flesh"/"The Almost People" (which, by the way, didn't the Doctor take part in by killing the dummy Amy?), the exploration of power balance in "The Curse of the Black Spot"--though that episode introduced what may be history's blandest pirate captain.

I keep thinking back to the sixth and seventh Doctors dealing with the possibility of a darker Doctor. Of course, that was before the new series decided the Doctor was somehow a badass superhero rather than an eccentric alien genius sorting things out for people. But considering the corrupted Doctor from The Trial of a Time Lord arc, the Valeyard, was supposed to be from the Doctor's twelfth or thirteenth incarnation, it would be kind of interesting if they were actually planning on making good on that.



I guess I was right in thinking the astronaut that shoots the Doctor was in fact River, though I was sure the little girl wasn't River. Or rather, I was hoping she was Romana. Oh, well. I miss Romana. For all the kissing, "sweeties", and name telling with River, I still feel like the Doctor had a closer relationship with Romana. The Doctor and River is all big, brief flashes, the Doctor and Romana was a couple who lived together. Which makes it all the more annoying that in "Let's Kill Hitler" the TARDIS only shows recent companions for the voice interface. Though that's on top of the annoyance that we were just told in "The Doctor's Wife" that the Doctor couldn't talk to the TARDIS normally, and that's why it was so sad the anthropomorphised TARDIS character was so short lived.



I also don't like the Doctor's new coat and I was glad he switched back at the end.

Oh, going back to "A Good Man Goes to War", I'd like to add my vote for a spin-off series about the Silurian and human lesbian couple of samurai assassins from Victorian London.

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From:bri_himself
Date:August 28th, 2011 08:21 pm (UTC)
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I'm still very sad that Amy and Rory apparently never get reunited with their baby. (And a little annoyed that Melz's 'everything worked out and you got to see me grow up after all' line apparently just sort of works for everyone, and wasn't intended ironically. If some pervy time traveller stole some hypothetical moppet of mine, I wouldn't be at all pleased if it turned out that she'd been raised as my kid sister the whole time.) Why they want to continue travelling with the Doctor is beyond me.

The Doctor and River is all big, brief flashes, the Doctor and Romana was a couple who lived together.

With a kid and a dog! And trips to visit doddery old relatives in Cambridge.

Though that's on top of the annoyance that we were just told in "The Doctor's Wife" that the Doctor couldn't talk to the TARDIS normally, and that's why it was so sad the anthropomorphised TARDIS character was so short lived.

The TARDIS has communicated with him obliquely in the past, and it's implied throughout 'The Doctor's Wife' that she can always hear and respond to him, if not the other way around, so I don't think that 'give me guilt' business was a continuity breach or anything.

I also don't think the voice interface hologram Thingy was intended by the script to be an avatar of the TARDIS proper - though I do think that that overdubbed 'fishfingers and custard' line could well be a telepathic message she sent to rally him.

which, by the way, didn't the Doctor take part in by killing the dummy Amy?

I think he just cancelled the transmission and the Flesh returned to its default state by itself.

...Of course, now that I think about it, he must've turned off whatever magic field it was in the TARDIS that 'stablised' the other Flesh copies before he severed the link or - presumably - there'd still be a solid, bemused Amy in the TARDIS and an Amy waking up pregnant in a tube. So it's still sort of done for convenience. Time to break out the 'Time-Travelling Bastards' icon again.

Oh, going back to "A Good Man Goes to War", I'd like to add my vote for a spin-off series about the Silurian and human lesbian couple of samurai assassins from Victorian London.

Seconded.
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From:setsuled
Date:August 28th, 2011 10:36 pm (UTC)
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I'm still very sad that Amy and Rory apparently never get reunited with their baby.

I suppose this might have bothered me too if the thought of children filled me with anything other than a mild nausea. I admit I felt kind of relieved they disposed of the character's whole childhood so neatly.

With a kid and a dog! And trips to visit doddery old relatives in Cambridge.

Exactly. It was cool except for the kid. I wish they could magically finish Shada somehow. Maybe in a couple years if cgi is really good . . .

I also don't think the voice interface hologram Thingy was intended by the script to be an avatar of the TARDIS proper

Well, what else could it be? It's a voice interface for the TARDIS. A talking thing controlled by the TARDIS. Unless there's some kind of filter, it is what it is. Otherwise it would be like saying my voice on the phone doesn't speak for me.

Hmm. Well, that's kind of an interesting prompt, but you get what I mean.
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From:bri_himself
Date:August 29th, 2011 08:42 am (UTC)
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It's a voice interface for the TARDIS. A talking thing controlled by the TARDIS.

Well, yes, but all it can say is things like 'I am a voice interface' and 'you will die in 32 minutes'; it's like the robot Amy later, parroting out biographical data. I think probably it was something the Doctor set up to link to the TARDIS databank while he was too busy doing other stuff to read from all the screens.

Besides, even if it is a voice interface for the whole TARDIS matrix, it can still apparently only say 'I am a voice interface' and 'you will die in 32 minutes', so 'The Doctor's Wife' is still terribly sad.

Exactly. It was cool except for the kid.

Yeah. And the Doctor didn't do so great as a single parent there, did he?
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From:setsuled
Date:August 30th, 2011 05:46 am (UTC)
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Besides, even if it is a voice interface for the whole TARDIS matrix, it can still apparently only say 'I am a voice interface' and 'you will die in 32 minutes', so 'The Doctor's Wife' is still terribly sad.

I sometimes wish I could just accept things in fiction even if they don't add up for me. I guess you could say it's controlled by a separate AI from the primary one, one tied to the databank. As much as I did like that fish fingers and custard scene, though, I kind of don't feel like it works as something to continually call back to, and definitely not as something for the Doctor to draw strength from. I ate a really large yam on Saturday night, but I don't feel particularly inspired thinking about it. So for the, at the very least, bending or complicating of the rather crucial rule established in "The Doctor's Wife", I don't feel like there's significant reward.

And the Doctor didn't do so great as a single parent there, did he?

Fortunately.
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